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Old 10-06-2020, 06:28 PM
Ryan in Melbourne Ryan in Melbourne is offline
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Thanks for the warm welcomes.

I’m still looking around the site.
I have 0 metal shaping experience, other than some sheet metal classes back in high school many years ago.
Is there a thread that covers tools to get when starting?
I have some roofing snips, drills grinders and other general fabrication tools but not a lot of stuff that is explicitly for sheet metal.

I was planing on getting a box and pan brake as there are a lot of folded edges in the GT40 chassis. There are also a few other areas that will challenge me but I think I can get there.

I’m guessing I probably need to get a bead roller and some dies, a shrinker/stretcher, some dimple dies for pressing holes.

I have a hand held spot welded that will need some work to get it up to scratch. It needs some new electrodes. After that I am not entirely sure what else.

Any directions on where to head for information or places to purchase other than Hare and Forbes in Oz?
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Old 10-06-2020, 09:37 PM
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My free advice would be to contact Peter Tommasini http://handbuilt.net.au. He can provide outstanding guidance to start you on a very good path. Whatever the current Covid shutdown rules are in AU, Peter is where I would start.

Not many are so lucky as to have a Master like him in their backyard...
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Old 10-06-2020, 11:48 PM
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I was planning on getting a box and pan brake as there are a lot of folded edges in the GT40 chassis.

I’m guessing I probably need to get a bead roller and some dies, a shrinker/stretcher, some dimple dies for pressing holes.

Any directions on where to head for information or places to purchase other than Hare and Forbes in Oz?
Echo Cliff's advice re Peter for handtools (Peter Tommasini Handmade http://www.handbuilt.net.au/handtools.html). For larger machine tools at a reasonable price, H&F have some reasonable stuff - but they have some rubbish as well. I had one of their back to back light duty treadle shrinkers, but have just sold that machine and invested in their new deep throat jobbie. They had it on special last week for $999 NZ, down from $1400. It's a well built machine and initial test runs have been very positive. Part number is SHST2.0HD. Also just invested in just about their entire range of stake dollies - again pretty good value and not much to go wrong. I'll be adapting some of my existing home made stake dollies to suit their holding device. In terms of a box and pan, their 'Kleene' copy looks like a very good machine and would think from the weight that it would happily move 16swg. In terms of a swage, I made my own from a set of 'plans' from Tom Verity in the US and am very pleased with it. You have probably seen some shots of it in my Group 5 BMW build I have a full build thread on here under http://allmetalshaping.com/showthread.php?t=12894

Definitely reach out to Peter who is local to you in Melbourne. His DVD's are very good, but you might end up as I did, talking like 'Con the Fruiterer' - Bewdifull!

Please post progress on here - Kent White may also comment as he helped a chap make a lovely alloy GT 40.
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Old 10-07-2020, 04:42 AM
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Thanks Cliff and Richard.

Richard, I have been following your BMW build on facebook for a while.

i have sent an email to Peter Tommasini to see what he recommends. i would have been keen for one of the seminars but I think Covid will have put a stop to all that for the time being.

I had been looking at these from Joels garage.
https://www.joelsgaragegear.com.au/p...-brake-folder/
https://www.joelsgaragegear.com.au/p...d-roller-br18/
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Old 10-07-2020, 05:52 AM
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G'day Ryan, bloody good to see ya made it on here. Well done, like your intro too.
My "screen" name is Precocious Jeremiah. Actually it's the name of my scratch build Mk VII Coupe. Because it will be green and look like a bull frog front on . It is precocious as it is different.
I have been in touch with Kerry re my Eckold type mechanical metal shaper MkII. MkI is a success ! But due to the toggle link between the walking beam and ram(quill) it makes a bit of noise. The shrinking dies also worked...for 2min. The double sided tape holding the emery tape to the die faces sheared off. No surprize there. But carbide stippling the die faces is an art I will have to aquire. The MkII version has done away with the toggle link. It is an experimental design which I have not seen used anywhere. Very simple AND I hope effective.
We finally got the old lap top repaired and should be able to post some pics up the new design if proven.
As the mob on here have been very generous with their input into improving the collective skills, I have decided to share my design as an open source, if it works !
Btw there is another Chris on here that you know well. I think he goes under the name of Boris. You may want to have a look at SATAUS. He built his own bike. He is another bloke you know, under a different name....
Cheers, CJ.
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Old 10-07-2020, 08:54 AM
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But carbide stippling the die faces is an art I will have to aquire.
Cheers, CJ.
there was some discussion of that in here
http://www.allmetalshaping.com/showthread.php?t=20032

I am sure I will work out who is who in here soon enough.
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Old 10-10-2020, 09:53 AM
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Hi Ryan there was a person in australia who built a gt 40 a few years ago I cant remember if he posted it here or metal meet.He made pretty much The whole car and chassis . well worth a read if you an find it .
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Old 10-11-2020, 04:24 AM
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Welcome to the forum mate. Probably not that far from you.
Make sure you put a thread in the Automotive section on here and you will gain a lot going back over the old threads on there too.

Cheers Marcus.
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