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 Hello from NY Hi all..my name is Mike Cross i live in Westerlo NY..I am an automotive tech by trade but I have been doing a form of metal fab things most of my life..i have a restoration project to do with my grandson and thats going to require more knowledge on shaping and I would like to be able to teach my grandson the correct way of doing it..thanks for the chance to learn Mike | 
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 Hi Mike welcome to the forum Peter | 
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 Hello Mike and welcome. Jere | 
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